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    Sep 2004
    ,Yosemite region

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    I revived an old thread on adding distance I could of used that one
    but I want the old guys to see JC response its nice to read his words. RIP Jim!

    I was out on the lawn today and got all jazzed up so
    with nothing else to do this fine evening I thought I would add my thoughts for the
    beginners to the sport.

    Distance is not what one should strive for
    when your beginning to learn to cast..

    Developing good form through muscle memory is
    what you want to strive for.

    All the guidance I offer below is to start , once these
    are mastered , modifications like changing grip , incorporating some wrist movement
    rod drift ect, can and will be necessary to advance the fun and develop your own style
    like riding a bike you can let go of the handlebars just not at first..

    Let me try to explain :

    1. Grip / hold the rod with your thumb on top your fingernail
    should point toward the rod tip , or in practice
    a pencil or just the top half of your rod.
    The hold should be light not a tight grip. Like holding a kitten
    Re;ax your arm muscles , using a pencil or 1/2 rod to mimic the stroke
    as I describe below,
    Keep your wrist and foreman firm and in line with the rod
    your arm should be close to your body remember - do not bend the wrist at all.

    2. The rod stroke is a deliberate push pull motion your hand must travel
    along a horizontal path through the front and rear casting strokes.
    Many reckon it to an igloo vs a flat ceiling. The rod should
    follow the path of a flat ceiling.
    Without a rod raise your arm close to your body , push / pull your arm in a
    straight horizontal path.
    Develop muscle memory doing this it won't take long..

    2a. with the Abrupt Stop
    at my desk I can develop the correct grip and path as well as the
    abrupt stop that is needed at the rear and front stroke
    of the cast. Its like flipping paint off a paint brush. Its
    a feel that you want to learn well, get a brush and flick water
    it will help to develop the feel..
    Develop a feel for the sudden stop of the rod.

    3. Practice away from the water , be sure to pre stretch the line as
    you don't want any loops from being wound on the reel.
    Tie on a short stout leader at 3 to 5 feet at most with a tuff or hi vis
    yarn on the end.
    Now play out about 15 maybe 18 feet of line. lay it out straight
    in front of you,
    The line must extend out far enough so the belly of the line
    is out the rod tip,, I am using DT line for this discussion.
    Any line will work as long as you get the weight of the line body
    out past the tip.

    Now with the line out straight in front of you and the correct rod
    grip, drop the rod tip low in fact touch the lawn, slowly
    start to pickup the line, as soon as the yarn starts to move
    pull the rod tip back to about the 1 o'clock position and do an
    abrupt stop, wait for the yarn tuff to extend out completely
    behind, the abrupt stop is critical as it lets the rod release
    energy developed during the rear stroke. Make it a point to
    watch the line extend to your rear.
    The fly / yarn tuff needs to start to move first, before
    the pickup and cast is started.

    Let the line fall to the the ground at the rear,, practice this a few times
    Get the timing down for the pickup and abrupt rear stop
    use a push pull motion, often it even better to not use a line
    and pretend , I like to get the sun just in the right spot
    and watch my shadow
    . A clean pickup timed right and
    keeping the horizontal plane to an abrupt stop is key.
    Remember do not form an arc with the rod, practice
    drawing that horizontal between about 10 and 2 with the
    rod before you put the line on.

    Now with line do it again this time after the abrupt rear
    and the leader/yarn fully extends behind and before it starts
    to fall, begin the forward stroke to about the 11 o'clock
    position with another abrupt stop, this time add a slight
    pressure to the cork with your thumb and forefinger
    and lower the tip of the rod to the water. The line should
    form a nice loop then unroll to the ground,
    I keep doing this until the entire line extends straight out
    in front of me.
    On the rear stroke the line should form a nice loop
    that is the point to start the forward cast.

    Do it with the smallest amount of line possible to start
    you will be able to see that loop better behind so to time
    the forward stroke. Timing is key, I use a rhythm count
    3, 2,1 start the forward stroke It takes a few seconds for
    the line to form to the rear , don't rush your stroke if is falls
    to the rear so be it try again.

    This practice is know as the pickup and lay down cast.
    Doing this several times with a short amount of line out will help
    you form the good habits that many wish they had started with.
    Do a few pickup and lay down casts then start to let some line
    off the reel and you can feel how the rod does the work.
    The only way to get the timing right is to slow down
    this is a patience game.

    Some other thoughts if possible start with a light line setup ;

    -Try not to tighten up let the energy of the rod do the work.

    - Grip the rod with thumb on top the cork fingernail
    points to the rod tip,
    Hold the rod gently , relax your arm and mind.

    - Pickup the line only after the yarn ( fly ) starts
    to move,, don't rip it , the cast is always started off
    slow. This is very important especially once
    your on the water.. so make it a habit during

    This is only the beginning of the casting experience
    once you get the feel of the cast and develop muscle
    memory , you will be on your way to forming and controlling your
    loops as well as mastering various casts..

    This is not rocket science , it is exactly like riding a bike
    once you get it , let go of the handle bars , your on your way!
    Last edited by Steve Molcsan; 07-18-2020 at 08:42 AM.
    Steve Molcsan

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